Shqiponja me dy koke ky simbol i lashte.

[arberor]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Salvore

[Gazmend]

Teme e bukur kjo, por zoteri arberor une nuk e kam te kjarte kete pikturen me larte. Cka figuron aty ju lutem ?

Faleminderit.

[arberor]

Teme e bukur kjo, por zoteri arberor une nuk e kam te kjarte kete pikturen me larte. Cka figuron aty ju lutem ?

Faleminderit.

click on the picture, and you will see the double headed eagle, basically same flag as ours, red and black. Seems that the painter failed to hide the flag.

[Gazmend]

Teme e bukur kjo, por zoteri arberor une nuk e kam te kjarte kete pikturen me larte. Cka figuron aty ju lutem ?

Faleminderit.

click on the picture, and you will see the double headed eagle, basically same flag as ours, red and black. Seems that the painter failed to hide the flag.

O, thank you. Had to click twice. Saw it now. Great

Sorry for asking you in Albanian, your name looks familiar.

[arberor]

http://www.bridgemanart.com/asset/23003 ... 2%3A123%7D

[arberor]

http://www.bridgemanart.com/asset/50771 ... 2%3A357%7D

[arberor]

so what does this mean, could Venetians be Albanians or we atleast had a major role in the city, or did we copy our flag from Venetians?,

[erix77]

so what does this mean, could Venetians be Albanians or we atleast had a major role in the city, or did we copy our flag from Venetians?,

It could just be the Holy roman empire flag and have nothing to do with our flag but can also be an Albanian as at the time that the paintings were made (16th century) there were a lot of Albanians living in Venice.

[arberor]

so what does this mean, could Venetians be Albanians or we atleast had a major role in the city, or did we copy our flag from Venetians?,

It could just be the Holy roman empire flag and have nothing to do with our flag but can also be an Albanian as at the time that the paintings were made (16th century) there were a lot of Albanians living in Venice.

Whether the painter applied to his time or not., that fact is some of the events were in the 12century, and showing with Albanian flags,

[erix77]

so what does this mean, could Venetians be Albanians or we atleast had a major role in the city, or did we copy our flag from Venetians?,

It could just be the Holy roman empire flag and have nothing to do with our flag but can also be an Albanian as at the time that the paintings were made (16th century) there were a lot of Albanians living in Venice.

Whether the painter applied to his time or not., that fact is some of the events were in the 12century, and showing with Albanian flags,

yes but did we had an Albanian flag in the 12th century?
My firm believe is that the Albanian flag was born with Scanderbeg and so before him it could have been any kind of flag,roman ,byzantine,German or whatever.

P.s.I don't think that a 16th century painter had a clear idea of what clothes,uniforms,symbols or flags were used 4 centuries before his own time,instead he must have used the reality that his own eyes testified in the paintings that described the past.

[bardus]

Edmund Blair Leighton Paintings, Art, Oil Painting

[arberor]

Edmund Blair Leighton Paintings, Art, Oil Painting

the firs pic is blurry and not showing everything.

here a better one:



here is the second one http://paintings-art-picture.com/Edmund ... image2.htm

wow, what does mean?

[Mallakastrioti]

Simboli i Shqiponjes, shpendi mitik qe nderohej prej iliro-shqiptareve.

Shume kultura te lashta e kane patur kete simbol, pra shqiponjen. Zanafilla e ketij simboli ka te beje me gjithesine e zotave dhe eshte nje simbol diellor. Shqiponjat dykrenare jane tipare te zotave te dyfishte, pra te fuqise se dyfishte apo gjithedijes se dyfishte.
Ky simbol nuk lind aspak as me Perandorine Romake dhe as me ate Bizantine, por keto Perandori e pervetesuan kete simbol prej kulturave te mepareshme. Nder Epirotet e lashte eshte e njohur tashme qe ky simbol lidhet me Pirron e Epirit. Gjithashtu nder Bylinet e lashte (fis Ilir ne Ilirine e Jugut) ky simbol na paraqitet ne monedhat e tyre ne formen e nje shqiponje njekrereshe. Por a kemi fakte qe ky simbol paraqitet nder fiset ilire veriore?
Ne se do analizonim artefaktet ilire gjetur pikerisht ne Ilirine e Veriut, si dhe duke u mbeshtetur ne ilirologe te famshem si A. Stipçeviç, nuk mund te kemi as dyshimin me te vogel qe iliret e perdornin kete simbol diellor, pra shqiponjen dykrenare (fuqi e zotave te dyfishte) edhe ne mburojat e tyre (shih imazhin e bashkangjitur). Pra ne imazhin e sjell ne kete shkrim ne mburojen e luftetarit ilir paraqitet pikerisht shqiponja dykrenare.
Keto fakte hedhin poshte spekulimet qe mund te behen lidhur ketij somboli te sterlashte iliro-shqiptar. Shqiptaret e trasheguan prej te pareve te tyre dhe shqiptaret kane banuar perhere ne tokat stergjyshore ku gjenden sot.

(Foto: Shkeputur prej vepres se A. Stipçeviç "Iliret")

[arberor]

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[arberor]

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