"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

FUSTANELLA

Sillni fotografi historike që dëshmojne anët e panjojtura të një ngjarje, personi, apo fenomeni historik, ose që ndihmojnë në favor të një teze historike.
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Nuk kam t'dhena per t'argomentuar hollesisht qeshtjen. Por nese eshte e vertet qe ne Veri nuk e kan veshur futanellen, perkundrazi... parashtrohet pytja se si n'Shkoder eshte mbajtur, edhe plus ka qen nje epiqender bukur e rendesishme e punimit dhe prodhimit te fustanelles. Shkodra dhe Mali i Zi mu aty jan, Shkodra eshte Veri. Nese mbeshtetemi ne mendimin e ketij tipi qe e mohon fustanellen eshte pak veshtir ta akceptojm faktin qe vetem pak kilometra me ne jug, pra ne Veri, ne Shkoder, eshte mbajtur dhe me mburrje. Por prap kthehem tek fillimi... nuk kam argumente shkencore ta "rrezoj" mendimin e shokut geg.

Me respekt, Mark gegu.
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se vran' Mustabej Dangllinë
T'ma kesht pruarë të gjav
u' burr' tim doj të marr."
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Albpelasgian dhe veçanerisht Marku ju falenderoj per pergjigjet. Qe te hyj disi ne hollesi te debatit qe kam pasur jo vetem me kete individ, por edhe me dy tre miq te tij, po geg.Nga momenti qe te njejten gje qe ti Marku shtrove ketu, qe fustanella eshte mbajtur me krenari ne Shkoder si dhe Mal te Zi, ku faktet deshmojne qe ata qe sillen neper imazhe apo piktura te ndryshme paraqiten pa tjeter etnikisht shqiptar dhe jo te ndonje grupi tjeter perkatesor, zoteria ne fjale me ktheu kete pergjigje duke kerkuar te kalonte njerzit qe kane mbartur fustanellat si vlleh. Nuk eshte aspak dileme kjo imja si pyetje apo debat qe kerkoj ketu, pasi llogjikisht po te marrim, vetem shqiptaret lejoheshin te "livadhisnin" ne publik e kudo me arme dhe asnje etni tjeter nuk njihet perveç tyre. Edhe vllehet nuk mendoj se kane qene nje imitim i luftetarit shqiptar, pasi nuk kemi ndonje te dhene qe kjo etni te mund te kete qene nje rrace luftarake ndonjehere.Megjithate me erdhi keq me keta djem, pasi kerkojne te kundershtojne pa u informuar.
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Ta perkujtojme se fustanella njihej ne historine e saj edhe me emrin 'dalmatinka'. Ky emer ju dha pas fisit ilir te dalmateve qe kishin po kete veshje. Ky kostum Ilir eshte shtri pikerisht nga Veriu i Ilirise e deri ne Jug te Epirit, dhe kete e pranojne edhe vete Greket, edhepse nuk u konvenon:


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Material i shkelqyeshem! Te falemnderit Socio!

Ja edhe dicka tjeter qe nxorra prej nje forumi sllavomaqedon (te cilet e perdorin elementin shqiptar te Greqise si kundervenie ndaj saj):

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Faleminderit Alb. Kjo ishte e bukur !

Ketu une i shtoj edhe kenget (balladat) e tyre:

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shum bukuri e madhe .....
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UEH Trojan!!!

emrin e dojm... :-)
"Sihariq, moj Bubullinë
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Marku wrote:UEH Trojan!!!

emrin e dojm... :-)

Jo fatkeqesisht Jo!!!
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Mos thuaj 'fatkeqesisht' Trojan, se ka ketu ''eksperta'' qe hulumtimin e kane profesion :D

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Socio wrote:Mos thuaj 'fatkeqesisht' Trojan, se ka ketu ''eksperta'' qe hulumtimin e kane profesion :D

Ketu: http://www.reproarte.com/picture/Eugene ... /3771.html
thanks Socio... Sma merrte mendja qe do ishte Delacroix!!
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Faleminderit Socio!!
"Sihariq, moj Bubullinë
se vran' Mustabej Dangllinë
T'ma kesht pruarë të gjav
u' burr' tim doj të marr."
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Victor Pierre HUGUET

"La Halte des cavaliers en Turquie Huile sur toile"


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T'ma kesht pruarë të gjav
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[quoteem]VICTOR PIERRE HUGUET - MARCHÉ AU BORD DU NIL

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'The encampment' by Vasily Sitnikov

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