"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

SHQIPERIA DHE SHQIPTARET NEPER HARTA KLASIKE

Sillni harta historike fiziko-politike-etnografike, që pasqyrojnë realitetin etnik dhe politik të një rajoni të caktuar, në një periudhë të caktuar.
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Mallakastrioti wrote:Shihni nje emertim interesant krahines se Laberise:

ne dy harta te ndryshme ndeshet i njejti emertim "LAPLACA"

Ortelius A., 1612.

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Valk G.& L., c. 1730.

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Jelimet apo "PLEQESIA" (Plak), pra te vjetrit, fqinje te Bylineve, mos ketu gjendeet enigma e toponimit "La-beria" ?

Pjesa eshte shkeputur prej librit :
Delphin classics (1819)


Author: Valpy, Abraham John, 1787-1854

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Edhe pse autori ne noten (shenimin e vet) dyshon çfare ka shkruar Ptolemeu, pra qe kufijte te kene qene te shtrire deri afer Apollonise, ky fis duhet te kete qene i rendesishem ne kohen e Ptolemeut sikurse autore te tjere na thone gati te njejten gje.(Perkthimi nga latinishtja si me poeshte)

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Edhe pse u mundova ta perkthej sa me drejt shenimin e autorit, kam dyshim qe ndoshta autori ka dashur te shpreh vendndodhjen e ketij fisi (pra diku aty siper Vlores se sotme dhe afer Apollonise).
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Ah, kjo propaganda e pabese shqiptare qe paguan me lek hartografet e huaj vetem e vetem per t'i fshire nga harta greket e gjore :mrgreen: :mrgreen: -haha-

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Albpelasgian, une po e sjell te plote ate, ne menyre qe te jete e verifikueshme:
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Kurse ne kete harte shqiptaret e ritit ortodox konsiderohen greke:
The Ethnological Map by Ami Boué
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Megjithate, ata jane shenuar me nje ngjyre te ndryshme nga "greket e vertete":

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The Russian Ethnological Map
1867
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Burimi:Revue:Questions diplomatiques et coloniales Paris 1897-1914
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'Shqiperia me 1400'

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'Shqiperia, para dhe gjate Perandorise Osmane'

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Sociologica wrote:'Shqiperia, para dhe gjate Perandorise Osmane'

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Me ben pershtypje emri: "Kossova"(dhe jo Kosovo), ne harten e mesiperme.
Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt
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^ Ashtu njihej regjioni nga shoqeria dominante - Osmanet (Turqit).
Eshte harte angleze e shek. 19. Anglezi e shenon, ashtu sic e mer nga Osmanet, si ne harten e pare ashtu edhe te dyten.
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Mappa dell'Impero Ottomanno.
Composta da Abubekir Efendi. 1740

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Hartë e Ministrisë së Punëve të Jashtme britanike:
Shqiptarët e përfshirë dhe ata jashtë kufjve të shtetit shqiptar pas përcaktimit të kufijve, ndarjes së trojeve shqiptare dmth, në vitin 1913.

MAP 910.05
Carte de l’Etat Albanais
Showing Boundaries included and not included in Delimitation of 1913
[PRO: FO 925/41160]

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Map of Minority Languages Spoken in Italy during 1860s

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