Historia e kolonive """greke""

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Ne historiografine moderne behet nje zhurme e madhe, qe qytetet e zhvilluara te antikitetit vecanerisht te Ilirise dhe Epirit, na paskeshin qene themeluar vetem prej grekeve, duke ju dhene atyre padrejtesisht primatin e kultures. Ne dote provojme me fakte te pamohueshme, prej gojes te vete historianeve qe ne i quajme ""greke"", se kemi te bejme me spekulime te lashta dhe te reja, ca me qellim e ca nga injoranca. Le ti marrim ato nje nga nje ne shqyrtim

APOLONIA
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Apollonia (Ancient Greek: Ἀπολλωνία κατ' Ἐπίδαμνον or Ἀπολλωνία πρὸς Ἐπιδάμνῳ Apollonia kat' Epidamnon or Apollonia pros Epidamno) was an ancient Greek[1][2][3] city in Illyria, located on the right bank of the Aous river (modern-day Vjosë). Its ruins are situated in the Fier region, near the village of Pojani, in modern-day Albania. Apollonia was founded in 588 BCE by Greek colonists from Corfu and Corinth,[4]

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APOLLODORUS Epitome 5.6.15b

“ After the sack of Ilium,Menestheus, Phidippus and Antiphus, and the people of Elephenor, and Philoctetes sailed together as far as Mimas. Then Menestheus went to Melos and reigned as king, because the king there, Polyanax, had died. And Antiphus the son of Thessalus went to the Pelasgians, and having taken possession of the country he called it Thessaly. Phidippus with the Coans was driven first to Andros, and then to Cyprus, where he settled.[u] Elephenor died in Troy, but his people were cast away in the Ionian gulf and inhabited Apollonia in Epirus[/u].“

μετὰ δὲ τὴν Ἰλίου πόρθησιν Μενεσθεὺς Φείδιππός τε καὶ Ἄντιφος καὶ οἱ Ἐλεφήνορος καὶ Φιλοκτήτης μέχρι Μίμαντος κοινῇ ἔπλευσαν. εἶτα Μενεσθεὺς μὲν εἰς Μῆλον ἐλθὼν βασιλεύει, τοῦ ἐκεῖ βασιλέως Πολυάνακτος τελευτήσαντος. Ἄντιφος δὲ ὁ Θεσσαλοῦ εἰς Πελασγοὺς ἐλθὼν καὶ τὴν χώραν κατασχὼν Θεσσαλίαν ἐκάλεσε. Φείδιππος δὲ μετὰ Κῴων ἐξωσθεὶς περὶ τὴν Ἄνδρον, εἶτα περὶ Κύπρον ἐκεῖ κατῴκησεν. Ἐλεφήνορος δὲ ἀποθανόντος ἐν Τροίᾳ, οἱ σὺν αὐτῷ ἐκριφέντες περὶ τὸν Ἰόνιον κόλπον Ἀπολλωνίαν ᾤκησαν τὴν ἐν Ἠπείρῳ.

Sic shihet fare qarte, ate nuk e kane themeluar "greket", por ka qene ne egzistence shume me perpara tyre, te pakten qe nga Lufta e Trojes.

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DYRRAHU

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Though surviving remains are minimal, as one of the oldest cities in Europe, the city was founded as Epidamnos in the ancient region of Illyria in 627 BC by ancient Greek colonists from Corinth and Corcyra. The general vicinity of Epidamus was called Epidamnia

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Appian, The Civil Wars Book II-39

βασιλεὺς τῶν τῇδε βαρβάρων, Ἐπίδαμνος, πόλιν ᾤκισεν ἐπὶ θαλάσσης καὶ ἀφ᾽ ἑαυτοῦ προσεῖπεν Ἐπίδαμνον. τούτου θυγατριδοῦς Δύρραχος, νομιζόμενος εἶναι Ποσειδῶνος, ἐπίνειον ᾤκισε τῇ πόλει καὶ Δυρράχιον ὠνόμασε. πολεμουμένῳ δ᾽ ὑπὸ τῶν ἀδελφῶν τῷδε τῷ Δυρράχῳ συνεμάχησεν ὁ Ἡρακλῆς ἐπὶ μέρει τῆς γῆς, ἐξ Ἐρυθείας ἐπανιών: ὅθεν οἱ Δυρράχιοι τὸν Ἡρακλέα, ὡς μερίτην τῆς γῆς, οἰκιστὴν σφῶν τίθενται, οὐκ ἀρνούμενοι μὲν οὐδὲ τὸν Δύρραχον, φιλοτιμούμενοι δ᾽ ὑπὲρ σφῶν ἐς τὸν Ἡρακλέα μᾶλλον ὡς ἐς θεόν. φασὶ δ᾽ ἐν τῇ μάχῃ τῇδε Δυρράχου παῖδα Ἰόνιον ὑφ᾽ Ἡρακλέους ἐξ ἀγνοίας ἀποθανεῖν καὶ τὸν Ἡρακλέα τὸ σῶμα θάψαντα ἐμβαλεῖν ἐς τὸ πέλαγος, ἵνα ἐπώνυμον αὐτοῦ γένοιτο. χρόνῳ δὲ τῆς τε χώρας καὶ πόλεως κατασχεῖν Βρίγας ἐκ Φρυγῶν ἐπανελθόντας καὶ Ταυλαντίους ἐπ᾽ ἐκείνοις, Ἰλλυρικὸν ἔθνος, ἐπὶ δὲ τοῖς Ταυλαντίοις ἕτερον γένος Ἱλλυριῶν Λιβυρνούς, οἳ τὰ περίοικα νηυσὶ ταχείαις ἐληίζοντο: καὶ Λιβυρνίδας ἐντεῦθεν ἡγοῦνται Ῥωμαῖοι τὰς ναῦς τὰς ταχείας, ὧν ἄρα πρώτων ἐς πεῖραν ἦλθον. οἱ δ᾽ ἐκ τῶν Λιβυρνῶν ἐξελαθέντες ἀπὸ τοῦ Δυρραχίου Κερκυραίους ἐπαγόμενοι θαλασσοκρατοῦντας ἐξέβαλον τοὺς Λιβυρνούς: καὶ αὐτοῖς οἱ Κερκυραῖοι σφετέρους ἐγκατέμιξαν οἰκήτορας, ὄθεν Ἑλληνικὸν εἶναι δοκεῖ τὸ ἐπίνειον. τὴν δ᾽ ἐπίκλησιν ὡς οὐκ αἶσιον ἐναλλάξαντες οἱ Κερκυραῖοι καὶ τήνδε ἀπὸ τῆς ἄνω πόλεως Ἐπίδαμνον ἐκάλουν, καὶ Θουκυδίδης οὕτως ὠνόμαζεν: ἐκνικᾷ δ᾽ ὅμως τὸ ὄνομα, καὶ Δυρράχιον κληίζεται.

[u]A barbarian king of the region, Epidamnus by name, built a city on the sea-coast and named it after himself[/u]. Dyrrachus, the son of his daughter and of Neptune (as is supposed), added a dockyard to it which he named Dyrrachium. When the brothers of this Dyrrachus made war against him, Hercules, who was returning from Erythea, formed an alliance with him for a part of his territory; wherefore the Dyrrachians claim Hercules as their founder because he had a share of their land, not that they repudiate Dyrrachus, but because they pride themselves on Hercules even more as a god. In the battle which took place it is said that Hercules killed Ionius, the son of Dyrrachus, by mistake, and that after performing the funeral rites he threw the body into the sea in order that it might bear his name. At a later period the Briges, returning from Phrygia, took possession of the city and the surrounding country. They were supplanted by the Taulantii, an Illyrian tribe, who were displaced in their turn by the Liburnians, another Illyrian tribe, who were in the habit of making piratical expeditions against their neighbors, with very swift ships. Hence the Romans call swift ships liburnicœ, because these were the first ones they came in conflict with. The people who had been expelled from Dyrrachium by the Liburnians procured the aid of the Corcyreans, who then ruled the sea, and drove out the Liburnians. The Corcyreans mingled their own colonists with them and thus it came to be considered a Greek port; but the Corcyreans changed its name, because they considered it unpropitious, and called it Epidamnus from the town just above it, and Thucydides gives it that name also. Nevertheless, the former name prevailed finally and it is now called Dyrrachium.

Sic shihet nuk jane ""greket"" ata qe kane krijuar dhe emeruar qytetin por vendasit ""barbare"", mbreti i te cileve i dha emrin e tij.

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AMPHILOCIA

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Amfilochia (Greek: Αμφιλοχία), also Amfilohia and Amphilochia was a Greek city(polis) in Epirus.......

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Thucydides Book 2.68

About the same time, in the end of summer, the Ambraciotes, both they themselves and divers barbarian nations by them raised, made war against Argos of Amphilochia and against the rest of that territory. The quarrel between them and the Argives arose first from hence. This Argos and the rest of Amphilochia was planted by Amphilochus the son of Amphiaraus after the Trojan war, who, at his return, misliking the then state of Argos, built this city in the Gulf of Ambracia and called it Argos after the name of his own country. And it was the greatest city and had the most wealthy inhabitants of all Amphilochia. But many generations after, being fallen into misery, they communicated their city with the Ambraciotes, bordering upon Amphilochia; and [u]then they first learned the Greek language now used from the Ambraciotes that lived among them. For the rest of the Amphilochians were barbarians[/u].

Κατὰ δὲ τοὺς αὐτοὺς χρόνους, τοῦ θέρους τελευτῶντος, καὶ ᾿Αμπρακιῶται αὐτοί τε καὶ τῶν βαρβάρων πολλοὺς ἀναστήσαντες ἐστράτευσαν ἐπ' ῎Αργος τὸ ᾿Αμφιλοχικὸν καὶ τὴν ἄλλην ᾿Αμφιλοχίαν. ἔχθρα δὲ πρὸς τοὺς ᾿Αργείους ἀπὸ τοῦδε αὐτοῖς ἤρξατο πρῶτον γενέσθαι. ῎Αργος τὸ ᾿Αμφιλοχικὸν καὶ ᾿Αμφιλοχίαν τὴν ἄλλην ἔκτισε μὲν μετὰ τὰ Τρωικὰ οἴκαδε ἀναχωρήσας καὶ οὐκ ἀρεσκόμενος τῇ ἐν ῎Αργει καταστάσει ᾿Αμφίλοχος ὁ ᾿Αμφιάρεω ἐν τῷ ᾿Αμπρακικῷ κόλπῳ, ὁμώνυμον τῇ ἑαυτοῦ πατρίδι ῎Αργος ὀνομάσας (καὶ ἦν ἡ πόλις αὕτη μεγίστη τῆς ᾿Αμφιλοχίας καὶ τοὺς δυνατωτάτους εἶχεν οἰκήτορασ), ὑπὸ ξυμφορῶν δὲ πολλαῖς γενεαῖς ὕστερον πιεζόμενοι ᾿Αμπρακιώτας ὁμόρους ὄντας τῇ [u]᾿Αμφιλοχικῇ ξυνοίκους ἐπηγάγοντο, καὶ ἡλληνίσθησαν τὴν νῦν γλῶσσαν τότε πρῶτον ἀπὸ τῶν ᾿Αμπρακιωτῶν ξυνοικησάντων οἱ δὲ ἄλλοι ᾿Αμφίλοχοι βάρβαροί εἰσιν[/u].

Pra qartesisht amfiloket nuk ishin greke ne krye te heres, sepse vetem nje pjese e tyre e mesuan greqishten vetem kur rane ne kontakt me ambrakiotet, qe ishin nga ana e tyre koloniste ne Epir.

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BYLLIS

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Byllis (Ancient Greek, "Βύλλις")was an Ancient Greek polis[1] built at the site of an Illyrian settlement of the Bylliones

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Eshte qe ajo ishte kryeqendra e fisit ilir te byllioneve apo hyllioneve, qe ne krye te heres. Greket e mirefillte, si pasardhes te drejtepredrejte te ilireve dhe pikerisht te byllioneve apo hyllioneve, mund te gjendeshin atje si brenda races se tyre, por kjo nuk e bente bylisin nje koloni greke te mirefillte. Kuotat per kete jane te shumta por une kam zgjedhur dy prej tyre:

Pseudoskylaks, shek 6 Para Krishtit:

ILLYRIOI. And after Libyrnians are the Illyrian nation, and the Illyrians live along beside
the sea as far as Chaonia by Kerkyra, the island of Alkinoös. And there is a Hellenic city here,
which has the name Herakleia, with a harbour. The barbarians called Lotus-eaters are the
following: Hierastamnai, Boulinoi (Hyllinoi), coterminous with Boulinoi the Hylloi. And these
say Hyllos son of Herakles settled them: and they are barbarians. And they occupy a peninsula a
little lesser than the Peloponnese. And from peninsula parastonion is upright: Boulinoi live beside
this. And Boulinoi are an Illyric nation. And the coastal voyage is of the territory of Boulinoi of a
long day up to Nestos river.

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