"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

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Këtu mund të flisni mbi historinë tonë duke sjellë fakte historike për ndriçimin e asaj pjese të historisë mbi të cilen ka rënë harresa e kohës dhe e njerëzve.
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Po nuk perfundon ketu ore Alb....se me sketerre do ua bejme jeten... :)

Greece and the Greeks, tr. [from Lifvet i gamla verden] by M. Howitt (1863)


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Eleusina (Greek: Ελευσίνα, Ancient/Katharevousa: Ἐλευσίς Eleusis) is a town and municipality about 20 km NW of Athens. It is located near the northernmost end of the Saronic Gulf and is the seat of administration of West Attica Prefecture. It is best known for having been the site of the Eleusinian Mysteries, the most famous religious center of ancient Greece.[2] It was also the birth place of Aeschylus, one of the three great tragedians of antiquity. See also Metanira.


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Eleusina eshte vendi i mistereve Eleusjane Ἐλευσίνια Μυστήρια, i Demetres dhe Persefonit shume i rendesishem ne mitologji.
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Kundurjoti wrote:Eleusina eshte vendi i mistereve Eleusjane Ἐλευσίνια Μυστήρια, i Demetres dhe Persefonit shume i rendesishem ne mitologji.
Eshte e vertete, Dhemitra si Perendesha e Bimesise dhe bija e saj Persefoni, qe simbolizon vdekjen e natyres gjate dimrit, kane lidhje kuptimore dhe gjuhesore, me fjalen Ἐλευσίνια. Rrenja e fjales, eshte leu(me lind) dhe misteret eleusiane kane te bejne pikerisht, me rilindjen e natyres.
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“Nëse doni të zbuloni historinë para Krishtit dhe
shkencat e asaj kohe, duhet të studioni gjuhën shqipe !"
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Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz - albanolog, matematicient, filozof gjerman
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Dokumentar i shkurter historiko-politik mbi Çamerine:



A mendoni qe partite çame, si perfaqesuese te popullsise se perndjekur çame ne Shqiperi, i mbrojne ashtu si duhet interesat e tyre?

Per mendimin tim, kerkesat qe partite kane ndaj pales greke jane shume te vaketa e joperfaqesuese te interesave shqiptare. Nga njera ane kemi Greqine qe ende perpiqet te hedhe faren e poshter ne jugun e Shqiperise, kurse nga ana tjeter ke perfaqesuesit çame qe kerkojne si qyqare, vetem pronen e tyre. Nderkohe qe vete dokumentari solli shembullin e Kosoves, duke thene qe nje popull qe e di cfare do dhe guxon ta kerkoje, edhe mund te fitoje. Sipas meje, komuniteti çam duhet qe jo vetem te kerkoje te kthehet ne tokat nga ku u perzune nepermjet genocidit, por duhet te kerkoje edhe te bashkohet me Shqiperine, jo vetem se jane shqiptare, por edhe se per t'u perballur me palen greke duhet t'jua kthesh me pretendime e kerkesa sipas te njejtes monedhe , ndryshe nuk iu dilet mbane atyre.
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The Balkans (1914)


Author: William M. Sloane
Publisher: Eaton & Mains

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...si thote ky mo si thote:Shqipja gjuha me e vjeter e njohur ne Evrope?...dhe shqiptaret bene Greqine?
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Mallakastrioti wrote:Po nuk perfundon ketu ore Alb....se me sketerre do ua bejme jeten... :)

Greece and the Greeks, tr. [from Lifvet i gamla verden] by M. Howitt (1863)


Author: Fredrika Bremer
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Dhe kjo foto eshte me te vertet interesante dhe e ben me intrigante çeshtjen -waiting- :

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Zeus,diku kishe publikuar nje imazh te tille vallzimi te lashte "grek" grash :?:...ti benim nje krahasim me keto qe shkruhen ketu cfare perfundimi arrime?
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ore po akoma nuk u lodhet ...ku i gjeni gjithe keto te dhena qe nuk njeh "shkenca shqiptare"?

ekziston nje leter e djemve te heronjve te 1821-shehut-bocarit-xhaveles- drejtuar myslimanve edhe shqiptarve kryesisht...kush mundet te na i sjellin kete leter??
aty fshihet i gjithe sekreti edhe e verteta per "greket".Ate duhet ti kujtojm "grekve"?..ate edhe "filiki eterin" e elikranos qe na ka humbur mes nesh.. filiki eterin e perbenin ne pjese "vellamidhes" =vellezrit qe beheshin te tille duke prer gishtat e njeri tjetrit edhe duke pire gjakun e njeri tjetrit..nejse nejse, vazhdoni se jeni te mbrekullueshem..me vone do ta marre fjalen une ketu
KOHA ESHTE E MASKARENJVE/POR ATDHEU I SHQIPETRAVE
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Mallakastrioti wrote:[

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Zeus,diku kishe publikuar nje imazh te tille vallzimi te lashte "grek" grash :?:...ti benim nje krahasim me keto qe shkruhen ketu cfare perfundimi arrime?
Je duke aluduar sigurisht ne kete:

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ose edhe kjo:

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Ne sot po hedhim faren me emrin Bashkim,
Qe neser te korrim frutin me emrin Bashkim!
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Po Alb. Faleminderit.Per kete imazhin e dyte qe solle ketu kisha fjalen ne komentin tim me lart.Pra e njejta menyre nderthurje duarsh mes grave.
Lind pyetja:Aty ne Eleusi,ato gra arbershe/shqiptare,ku e mesuan ate menyre kercimi,pasi eshte fakt i pamohueshem qe ato gra ne foton qe solla jane arbereshe,si nga kostumi ashtu dhe udhetaret e ndryshem apo historiane jo grek na i thone kete gje.

Ja edhe nje tjeter sa per merak se mos na hidhet ndonje gerxhe e na thote nuk mjafton vetem nje citim:

Greece (1906)


Author: M'Clymont, James Alexander, 1848-; Fulleylove, John, 1847-1908
Subject: Greece -- Description and travel; Greece -- History
Publisher: London : Black

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ANCIENT GREECE.


Author: GEORGE BANCROFT
Publisher: HENRY G. BOHN, YORK


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Turkey in Europe (1877)


Author: Baker, James, lieutenant-colonel
Subject: Eastern question (Balkan)
Publisher: London, New York [etc.] Cassell, Petter & Galpin
Year: 1877


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Mallakaster, meqe do dite para, ra fjala per ngjashmerine e perpikte midis vallezimit te grave ne Greqine e lashte dhe
Eleusisin shqiptar, ma merr mendja se po kaq e rendesishme eshte dhe venia re e ngjashmerise midis fustaneve te grave minoane dhe atyre shqiptare.

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Perri minoane, te hieshme sa s'pershkruhen...

fustanet e tyre m'i perkujtojne fustanin e quajtur xhublete ne Veriun shqiptar. Mathiew Aref ne librin e tij kishte ba nje krahasim midis xhubletes shqiptare dhe asaj etruske, mirepo ne mungese te skanerit s'kam mundesi ta postoj.
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ALBPelasgian wrote:Mallakaster, meqe do dite para, ra fjala per ngjashmerine e perpikte midis vallezimit te grave ne Greqine e lashte dhe
Eleusisin shqiptar, ma merr mendja se po kaq e rendesishme eshte dhe venia re e ngjashmerise midis fustaneve te grave minoane dhe atyre shqiptare.

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Perri minoane, te hieshme sa s'pershkruhen...

fustanet e tyre m'i perkujtojne fustanin e quajtur xhublete ne Veriun shqiptar. Mathiew Aref ne librin e tij kishte ba nje krahasim midis xhubletes shqiptare dhe asaj etruske, mirepo ne mungese te skanerit s'kam mundesi ta postoj.

Flisje per nje veshje te tille Alb.? :)

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Ne foton e dyte me duket se ka njelloj variacioni te fustanit te apostrofuar. S'jam dhe aq i sigurte ngase s'po verehet qarte shkaku i
ngjyrave bardhe e zi. Doja te thosha qe xhubleta e valezuar ose pale-pale ka ngjasmeri me fustanet e grave minoane dhe mikenase.
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