"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

EPIRI - PERKATESIA E TIJ SHQIPTARE

Këtu mund të flisni mbi historinë tonë duke sjellë fakte historike për ndriçimin e asaj pjese të historisë mbi të cilen ka rënë harresa e kohës dhe e njerëzve.
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In his younger years, Ali was not a very strict Mahometan; but he has lately become religious, and entertains several Dervishes at his court; yet he does not at all relax in his ambitious efforts; and having no use for books, employs all the hours that he is absent from his harem in designs of future conquest. He is still an active horseman, and there is scarcely a village in his dominion which he does not visit once a year. I believe him, from good authority, never to have received even the education usually given to the Albanians. Besides his native tongue, he talks Greek fluently, but of the Turkish language he knows very little; and, like Justin and Theodoric, the contemporary lords of the Eastern and Western Empires, has raised himself to his present power, without perhaps knowing the letters of any alphabet.

He is doubtless a great man; but without saying or knowing that he is the worthy successor of Pyrrhus, whom, according to one author (Survey of the Turkish Empire, page 373), he is accustomed to call Piros, and, as another will have it (Voyage en Albanie, page 24), Bourrous. But he that does not smile at Mr Eton may believe Doctor Pouqueville.

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[extract from: John Cameron Hobhouse: A Journey through Albania and Other Provinces of Turkey in Europe and Asia to Constantinople during the Years 1809 and 1810, London 1813.
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Ky eshte nje tjeter konfirmim qe emri Pyrrhus ne shqip, nuk do te thote gje tjeter vecse burrë dhe para formimit te shtetit grek(ne kohen qe eshte shkruajtur libri), gjithkush nuk vinte ne dyshim prejardhjen e shqiptareve(epiroteve te rinj) nga epirotet e vjeter.
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Nuk e kuptoj , pse nuk eshte ngritur nje busti i Pirros ne jug te Shqiperise...!!!!

duket sikur ne e kemi si te huaj ... !!!
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Trojan wrote:Nuk e kuptoj , pse nuk eshte ngritur nje busti i Pirros ne jug te Shqiperise...!!!!

duket sikur ne e kemi si te huaj ... !!!
Nuk eshte problem ngritja ose mosngritja e nje busti sa eshte problem elitat akademike shqiptare te cilat nuk i kane avancuar fare studimet per Epirin, Maqedonine, etj. Me nje fjale ato pelqejne qe te mos trazohen me te shkuaren por te gjejne nje pozicion te pershtatshem me realpolitiken ditore. Nganjehere ngritja e bustit ka kuptim negativ sic eshte rasti i ndertimit te dhjetera permendoreve e statujave me Leken e Madh nga sllavomaqedonet (ne Prilep, psh) ose nga 'greket' ne Selanik ose Kavalle. Kjo pikerisht tregon falsitetin e perpjekjes se tyre per te monopolizuar nje figure te tille historike sic eshte Leka i Madh.

Toskeria eshte e mbushur plot e perplot me trashegimi te gjalle te Burrit dhe epiroteve te tjere. Ia vlen te rikujtojme punen kolosale te erdutit Dhimiter Pilika i cili mblodhi thesare te pacmuara folklori ku Burri ze vendin e kryeheroit shqiptar te antikitetit.
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ALBPelasgian wrote:
Trojan wrote:Nuk e kuptoj , pse nuk eshte ngritur nje busti i Pirros ne jug te Shqiperise...!!!!

duket sikur ne e kemi si te huaj ... !!!
Nuk eshte problem ngritja ose mosngritja e nje busti sa eshte problem elitat akademike shqiptare te cilat nuk i kane avancuar fare studimet per Epirin, Maqedonine, etj. Me nje fjale ato pelqejne qe te mos trazohen me te shkuaren por te gjejne nje pozicion te pershtatshem me realpolitiken ditore. Nganjehere ngritja e bustit ka kuptim negativ sic eshte rasti i ndertimit te dhjetera permendoreve e statujave me Leken e Madh nga sllavomaqedonet (ne Prilep, psh) ose nga 'greket' ne Selanik ose Kavalle. Kjo pikerisht tregon falsitetin e perpjekjes se tyre per te monopolizuar nje figure te tille historike sic eshte Leka i Madh.

Toskeria eshte e mbushur plot e perplot me trashegimi te gjalle te Burrit dhe epiroteve te tjere. Ia vlen te rikujtojme punen kolosale te erdutit Dhimiter Pilika i cili mblodhi thesare te pacmuara folklori ku Burri ze vendin e kryeheroit shqiptar te antikitetit.

Besoj se po te ishte Skenderbeu gjalle, do e pergezonte nje Bust te tille... Besoj qe Pirro ka qene frymezues per Skenderbeun...
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Trojan wrote:
Besoj se po te ishte Skenderbeu gjalle, do e pergezonte nje Bust te tille... Besoj qe Pirro ka qene frymezues per Skenderbeun...
Na u deshen ca sakrifica per ti mbyllur gojen propagandes greko-serbe, qe dhe vete Skenderbeu ishte shqiptar, prandaj ata perdoren "Kalin e Trojes" brenda nesh "Muskutieret", Klosi-Vehbiu-Lubonja qe te mbillnin dyshimin per kete, me qellimin e vetem sepse po te vihet ne dyshim Skenderbeu(aq qartesisht shqiptar), eshte shume e lehte te mohohet perkatesia e Pirros dhe epirotve te vjeter, aq me teper qe vete Skenderbeu ka pohuar prejardhjen e drejteperdrejte nga Pirro.
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Si duket ne e kemi lene tia bejme monumentin Pirros ne Janine qe ti beje karshillek Ali pashait.
Dhe e bëmë me besa besën ja të rrojmë ja të vdesëm!

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Pirro e ka permendoren e tij ne Janine te sheshi qendror para prefektures (qe mos te lodheni ju mesa duket).
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mos ki merak se do ta heqim ate statujen prej homoje dhe do e veme nje statuje Burri.
Dhe e bëmë me besa besën ja të rrojmë ja të vdesëm!

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Le te kthehemi prape ne teme. Fjalor ne latinisht i shekullit te 17, ku flitet per PILEUS(plis) identifikohet plisi epiriotik me ate albanez:
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I njejti autor :
Hofmann, Johann Jacob (1635-1706): Lexicon Universale, Historiam Sacram Et Profanam Omnis aevi,
omniumque Gentium; Chronologiam Ad Haec Usque Tempora;

perdor ne menyre te menyre te nderkembyeshme Albania dhe Epirus per te definuar njeri-tjetrin:

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Shtypi Italian, Tetor 1914.

"Greqia lajmeron pushtimin e Epirit Shqiptar"

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Lajme rreth pushtimit te Korçes nga forcat greke si dhe mobilizimi i vullnetareve shqiptar nga gjithe krahinat.

Gazeta italiane "La Stampa"-5 Maj 1914:


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Liber i vitit 1715, qe jep referenca per ngjarje te shekullit te 16-e:
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Tekst i 1628:

Epirotet qe therriten ndryshe albaneze:

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