"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

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"Sihariq, moj Bubullinë
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T'ma kesht pruarë të gjav
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[quoteem]EDWARD LEAR - CORFU FROM THE VILLAGE OF ASCENSION 1857
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James Baker 1878 'Turkey in Europe', page 391
"Sihariq, moj Bubullinë
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T'ma kesht pruarë të gjav
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'Acropolis, Athens' by Thomas Ender

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EYRE EVANS CROWE 1853, page 111, in :

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"Sihariq, moj Bubullinë
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T'ma kesht pruarë të gjav
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Shume e Bukur kjo piktura me larte Marku ....

Kush eshte autori ? dhe si quhet?
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Mirmrama Trojan,

fatkeqsisht kete piktur e kam marr ne web kur e kisha terpijen per fustanella dhe mblidhsha vepra pa i jap randesi autorit...

pershendetje
"Sihariq, moj Bubullinë
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T'ma kesht pruarë të gjav
u' burr' tim doj të marr."
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Edward Lear - FIGURE ON A BALCONY OVERLOOKING THE CITADEL, CORFU
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Me siguri eshte nje Suliot , nga ata qe vajten ne Korfuz..
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Marku wrote:Mirmrama Trojan,

fatkeqsisht kete piktur e kam marr ne web kur e kisha terpijen per fustanella dhe mblidhsha vepra pa i jap randesi autorit...

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Duhet te jet e Paja Jovanivicit mbase ... ngaqe shihet qarte qe keta shqipetare me fustanella jane Geg dhe jo Tosk ... kjo duket qarte nga Jeleku qe mbajne..

Me sa di Une ka pasur dy qendra ku prodhoheshin fustanella , nje ne Janine dhe tjetra ne Shkoder..
Karaiskaki nqs nuk gabohem e kishte porositur fustanellen me veshjen perkatese te tij ne Shkoder
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Trojan wrote:
Marku wrote:Mirmrama Trojan,

fatkeqsisht kete piktur e kam marr ne web kur e kisha terpijen per fustanella dhe mblidhsha vepra pa i jap randesi autorit...

pershendetje
Duhet te jet e Paja Jovanivicit mbase ... ngaqe shihet qarte qe keta shqipetare me fustanella jane Geg dhe jo Tosk ... kjo duket qarte nga Jeleku qe mbajne..

Me sa di Une ka pasur dy qendra ku prodhoheshin fustanella , nje ne Janine dhe tjetra ne Shkoder..
Karaiskaki nqs nuk gabohem e kishte porositur fustanellen me veshjen perkatese te tij ne Shkoder
Mirdita Trojan,

pata nevoj per ca hulumtime dhe me ne fund ja arrita...

ke te drejt qe duhen te jen geg burrat e piktures...

autori eshte gjerman, quhet

"Albert Joseph Franke"

dhe vepra eshte e emeruar

"Chess players"

pershendetje nga Mark-u

p.s. kemi edhe nje veper tjeter qe per mendimin tim eshte gjeografikisht e veriut, eshte vepra e

"Rudolf Otto Ritter von Ottenfeld" "Backgammon" poashtu shum shum e bukur!
"Sihariq, moj Bubullinë
se vran' Mustabej Dangllinë
T'ma kesht pruarë të gjav
u' burr' tim doj të marr."
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Alfred Bourboulon

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T'ma kesht pruarë të gjav
u' burr' tim doj të marr."
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Deshiroja te me ndihmonit disi ne kete aspekt, sa vertetesi ka ky mesazh qe me nisi nje shqiptar geg, pas nje debati me te i cili nuk pranon absolutisht qe fustanella nuk eshte perdorur midis shqiptareve te Veriut, por ai shkon edhe me teje duke shkruar pikerisht:

"...fustanella à pèrdorè ndèr Malet e bajrakt vlleh n'Mal t'Zi, a nga veriu Vlleh ka shumè. E làjmè shumè menjanè kyt punen e vllehve, edhe pse i kena mes nesh qysh n'kohè t'Roms (e ndoshta mà par, guxoj t'tham) der m'sot. Janè nji hallk...è e ràndsishme.

Mali i Zi i pjesè t'mirè (apo shumicen) e ka me origjinè vllehe
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Mallakastrioti wrote:Deshiroja te me ndihmonit disi ne kete aspekt, sa vertetesi ka ky mesazh qe me nisi nje shqiptar geg, pas nje debati me te i cili nuk pranon absolutisht qe fustanella nuk eshte perdorur midis shqiptareve te Veriut, por ai shkon edhe me teje duke shkruar pikerisht:

"...fustanella à pèrdorè ndèr Malet e bajrakt vlleh n'Mal t'Zi, a nga veriu Vlleh ka shumè. E làjmè shumè menjanè kyt punen e vllehve, edhe pse i kena mes nesh qysh n'kohè t'Roms (e ndoshta mà par, guxoj t'tham) der m'sot. Janè nji hallk...è e ràndsishme.

Mali i Zi i pjesè t'mirè (apo shumicen) e ka me origjinè vllehe
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Mendimin tuaj ju lutem sa vertetesi kane fjalet e tij?
Jo edhe aq. S'pari perpjekja per me shpik vllehe ne kuptimin etnik (ndaras prej shqiptareve) eshte e gabueshme sepse koncepti 'vlleh' nuk ka nenkuptuar gjithmone
nje etni; gjegjesisht profesioni blegtoral (gati nomadik) shpeshhere eshte shnderruar prej autoreve te ndryshem ne nje kategori etnike. Nese me 'vlleh' nenkuptojme ilire te romanizuar, atehere ne rastin ne fjale nuk kemi te bejme me nje dukuri te tille sepse pikerisht iliret e ketyre aneve (Hercegovine, Sanxhak i Tregut te Ri dhe Mal i Zi) e kane ruajtur gjuhen e tyre gjer ne shekullin e XIX - gjuha qe perdornin ne te folurit e perditshem, ne kenge, dasma a vaje ishte shqipja. Edhe N.Malcolm pranon qe pikerisht ne keto ane (gjer ne hinterlandin e Raguzes) ka pasur nje prezence te fuqishme shqiptare. Nderkohe, fakti qe fustanella eshte perdore prej vlleheve eshte fakt i pamohueshem. Gjegjesisht do te doja ta shtoja edhe kete:
"It is true from the Kafirs of the Hindu Kush to the Illyrians of Albania. I think the oldest people of the Balkan States are probably the Albanians. They trace their lineage farther back than any other, and reckon themselves to be the descendants of the old Illyrians. They respect the Vlachs, and consider them to be a people of an ancestry, if not quite as old as their own, at any rate respectably old, and they admit of intermarriage between the Vlachs and themselves."
Ne sot po hedhim faren me emrin Bashkim,
Qe neser te korrim frutin me emrin Bashkim!
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