"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

EPIRI - PERKATESIA E TIJ SHQIPTARE

Këtu mund të flisni mbi historinë tonë duke sjellë fakte historike për ndriçimin e asaj pjese të historisë mbi të cilen ka rënë harresa e kohës dhe e njerëzve.
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Disa fakte traumatike për 'Grekërit'
In the fifteenth century, when Janina was attacked by the Turks, its fortresses
were defended by Albanians and not by Greeks.

Treaty of peace with Germany: Hearings before the Committee on ..., Part 1‎ - Page 1009 United States. Congress. Senate. Committee on Foreign Relations
In the main, the Greek element, more or less mixed with
Albanians and Kutzo-Wallachians, predominated in the southern valleys of 'black
Epirus'
, the most barren portion of the Skipetar land. In the rest of the country
the inhabitants are, almost to a man, Albanians
;

The bird's-eye view of the world‎ - Page 214
Onésime Reclus, Malvina Antoinette Howe - Science - 1892
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Zeus10, këto pasazhe të Herodotit a mund të përdoren si provë që Epiri nuk ishte grek:

47. These all who have been named dwelt inside the land of the Thesprotians and the river Acheron; for the Thesprotians border upon the land of the Amprakiots and Leucadians, and these were they who came from the greatest distance to serve: but of those who dwell outside these limits the men of Croton were the only people who came to the assistance of Hellas in her danger; and these sent one ship, of whom the commander was Phaÿlos, a man who had three times won victories at the Pythian games. Now the men of Croton are by descent Achaians.

47. [1] οὗτοι μὲν ἅπαντες ἐντὸς οἰκημένοι Θεσπρωτῶν καὶ Ἀχέροντος ποταμοῦ ἐστρατεύοντο· Θεσπρωτοὶ γὰρ εἰσὶ ὁμουρέοντες Ἀμπρακιώτῃσι καὶ Λευκαδίοισι, οἳ ἐξ ἐσχατέων χωρέων ἐστρατεύοντο. τῶν δὲ ἐκτὸς τούτων οἰκημένων Κροτωνιῆται μοῦνοι ἦσαν οἳ ἐβοήθησαν τῇ Ἑλλάδι κινδυνευούσῃ μιῇ νηί, τῆς ἦρχε ἀνὴρ τρὶς πυθιονίκης Φάυλλος· Κροτωνιῆται δὲ γένος εἰσὶ Ἀχαιοί.
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vazhdon..
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Duke lexuar nje liber rreth numizmatikes(rreth monedhave dhe medaljeve te lashta),ndesha ne diçka te tille:

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Perkthim:"Nga Amantia qytet bregdetar i Ilirise,pak medalje njihen,dhe gati ne te gjitha eshte e figuruar nje RRUFE dhe mbishkrimi AMANTON....
Per kete qytet flet S.Bizanti,duke treguar,qe ajo u ndertua nga ABANTET mbas kthimit te tyre nga rrethimi i Trojes,nga te cilet u quajt ABANTIA,duke u shnderruar me pas ne AMANTIA"

Po te hedhim nje shikim rreth Abanteve ne wiki thuhet:

"The Abantes were a tribe in ancient Greece[1] that may have once been Thracian. Their home was Euboea.
Origins

Aristotle of Chalcis reported that Thracians who arrived in Euboea through Abae named the island's inhabitants the Abantes.[2] The Abantes were definitely not Ionians themselves, but many ended up assimilated into the Ionian population.[3]
[edit] The Iliad

In the Iliad, Homer mentions the Abantes among the allies of the Greeks in the Trojan War.[4]
[edit] Colonies

Pausanias writes that they contributed to a colony from Thronium in Thesprotis. The local area became known as Abantis. Eventually it was conquered by Apollonia with the help of Corinth.[5]

Another colony was sent to Chios, but eventually it was defeated and the survivors forced to flee.[6]"
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Lexicon taciteum: ex auries et optimi scriptoribus sellecta ac in dues ...‎ - Pagina 571
1833

KANINA=KAONIA
KANINIOTET=KAONET
KANINA=KAONIA=PROVINCE NE SHQIPERI

Te pakten keshtu e shpjegon ky miku ne kete Fjalor...

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Mallakastrioti wrote:Lexicon taciteum: ex auries et optimi scriptoribus sellecta ac in dues ...‎ - Pagina 571
1833

KANINA=KAONIA
KANINIOTET=KAONET
KANINA=KAONIA=PROVINCE NE SHQIPERI

Te pakten keshtu e shpjegon ky miku ne kete Fjalor...

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thua qe edhe une te jem sternip i kadmit lol?nga kanina e kam origjinen une edhe perse jam laluc 4 breza.
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Mallakastrioti wrote:Lexicon taciteum: ex auries et optimi scriptoribus sellecta ac in dues ...‎ - Pagina 571
1833

KANINA=KAONIA
KANINIOTET=KAONET
KANINA=KAONIA=PROVINCE NE SHQIPERI

Te pakten keshtu e shpjegon ky miku ne kete Fjalor...

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ka ndokush ndonje harte ..a njohuri qe te na tregojn se ku ndodheshin "atitanet"....mbi orik e kaoni?
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alfeko sukaraku wrote:
Mallakastrioti wrote:Lexicon taciteum: ex auries et optimi scriptoribus sellecta ac in dues ...‎ - Pagina 571
1833

KANINA=KAONIA
KANINIOTET=KAONET
KANINA=KAONIA=PROVINCE NE SHQIPERI

Te pakten keshtu e shpjegon ky miku ne kete Fjalor...

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thua qe edhe une te jem sternip i kadmit lol?nga kanina e kam origjinen une edhe perse jam laluc 4 breza.
Mo mu mburr kot se ju lalucet e keni origjinen nga burri i pare i Harmonise qe quhej Ljal=Ljaleria=laleri=LA QE I RI.... -lol-
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Mallakastrioti wrote:
alfeko sukaraku wrote:
Mallakastrioti wrote:Lexicon taciteum: ex auries et optimi scriptoribus sellecta ac in dues ...‎ - Pagina 571
1833

KANINA=KAONIA
KANINIOTET=KAONET
KANINA=KAONIA=PROVINCE NE SHQIPERI

Te pakten keshtu e shpjegon ky miku ne kete Fjalor...

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thua qe edhe une te jem sternip i kadmit lol?nga kanina e kam origjinen une edhe perse jam laluc 4 breza.
Mo mu mburr kot se ju lalucet e keni origjinen nga burri i pare i Harmonise qe quhej Ljal=Ljaleria=laleri=LA QE I RI.... -lol-
lol

e kam gjoksin grop une...ska mundesi ..andej nga kanina do e kem origjinen
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Arbëri wrote:
Mallakastrioti wrote:Lexicon taciteum: ex auries et optimi scriptoribus sellecta ac in dues ...‎ - Pagina 571
1833

KANINA=KAONIA
KANINIOTET=KAONET
KANINA=KAONIA=PROVINCE NE SHQIPERI

Te pakten keshtu e shpjegon ky miku ne kete Fjalor...

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Arberi,rrofsh derman qe e plotesove me kete harte kete quote qe solla,me bukur nuk mund te shkonte. -itsok-
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I shërbejmë popullit :mrgreen:
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Meqenese gerxhet bertasin qe Selli(apo Selloi) ishin greket e lashte ne Dodone...me qarte se Straboni nuk mund tu pergjigjet asnje:

"An universal history: from the earliest accounts to ..., Parte 1, Volume 9
Di George Sale,George Psalmanazar,Archibald Bower,..."

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