"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

Per historine Came dhe te arvaniteve...

Këtu mund të flisni mbi historinë tonë duke sjellë fakte historike për ndriçimin e asaj pjese të historisë mbi të cilen ka rënë harresa e kohës dhe e njerëzve.
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alfeko sukaraku
3 ore rresht perktheva jutubin e vendOsur edhe kur erdhi ora te postoj mu kerkua te rihyj..rihyra edhe e humb PERKTHIMIN...U BERA TURBO FARE
-hahaha- -hahaha- -hahaha-
O sa kam qesh derman -haha-
“Nëse doni të zbuloni historinë para Krishtit dhe
shkencat e asaj kohe, duhet të studioni gjuhën shqipe !"
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Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz - albanolog, matematicient, filozof gjerman
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alfeko sukaraku wrote:
ika se me iku truri 3 ore perkthim gerem per gerem edhe e humba .
Alfeko vella, e njejta përvojë më përcjell me vite. Edhe unë jam tërbuar krejt kur shpenzova më shumë se një ditë përkthim të një teksti prej turqishtes, dhe në fund kur u përpjeka me postu, doli që nuk jam i kyqur...dhe kështu humbi krejt

Është mirë që ta bëjmë si shprehi, që kur të përkthejmë ta bëjmë drejtpërdrejtë në PC, në Word, duke e ruajtur një kopje në kompjuter për çdo material. Të paktën kështu veproj gjithmonë.
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djema...me iku truri nga inati..tre ore rresht punova edhe si perfundim fale tastierave te Zeusit -pis- e humba perkthimin


ishte me shume interes ai emision sepse godet fashistat greke edhe iden e gjakut te paster greke.

sidoqofte debati i Falmerayrit me paparigopulon qe peremendet ne funde tregon me se qarti se nuk ekziston asnje nishan gjaku qe te lidhi greket e vjeter me greket e rinje
KOHA ESHTE E MASKARENJVE/POR ATDHEU I SHQIPETRAVE
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Nga libri :
"Anecdota Graeca "(1829-1833) - Jean François Boissonade de Fontarabie (12 August 1774 – 8 September 1857) was a French classical scholar.

(Perberja etnike e Peleponezit)

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Po e postoje ketu Alb, po ashtu levize ti te ndonje teme tjeter!

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Falemnderit Pirro për këto materiale!
Ne sot po hedhim faren me emrin Bashkim,
Qe neser te korrim frutin me emrin Bashkim!
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Arvanitet e Samos(kam jetuar ne kete ishull dhe i kam vizituar keto fshatra Arvanite :) )

"Μesogios - Pandrosos, Samos Island

Some 4 kilometers far from Pyrgos at the Northeast it is situated the village of Messogeios (meaning “inland” in Greek) and, less than one kilometer far from this latter, it is found the village of Pandrossos, which is one of the villages of Samos built on the higher altitude. In the past the two villages were called Ano (“upper”) and Kato (“lower”) Arvanites (“Albanians”), a name which is probably due to the Albanian soldiers of Skenterbey, or Georgios Kastriotis, the famous Albanian warrior; according to some scholars, after the defeat and the death of their chief, his soldiers, persecuted by the Ottomans, took refuge in Greece and to the Aegean island. The residents of the two villages are occupied in viniculture and in the cultivation of olive trees.
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Bashkpunimi i N.Zerves konfirmohet edhe nga Christopher Montague Woodhouse....(edhe pse disi kontradiktor ne ato qe thote dhe njihet zyrtarisht qe Woodhouse ka nderruar shume here versionet e tij ne kujtimet)

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nje pasazh tjeter:

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Si dhe le te lexojme çfare na thote per "bashkpunimin" e Cameve me gjermanet,si dhe cilet ishin me te vertet ata qe bashkpunuan me gjermanet ne Epir:

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Pjese tetrale ne Malet e "Greqise" nga e ashtuquajtura Rezistenca Greke apo ANDARTET...shume "interesante" si kalonin kohen e lire dhe sidomos ato qe recitonin:

Nga libri:
"Cultural representation in historical resistance: complexity and ..."
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"That Greece Might Still Be Free: The Philhellenes in the War of Independence"-
William St Clair


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vazhdim rreth veshjes shqiptare:
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...si dhe nje pasazh tjeter interesant

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...po nga i njejti autor:

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(ja cili ishte Kondurjoti,qe nuk dinte greqisht fare dhe as nuk kishte idene e "nacionit=kombit" grek)
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"The Albanians: an ethnic history from prehistoric times to the present"
Edwin E. Jacques


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Etniciteti shqiptar.

Handbook for travellers in Greece: describing the Ionian islands, the ...
John Murray (Firm)

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si dhe ne vazhdim:

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Ndryshe nga cbesojne historianet moderne, arvanitasit e Greqise, nuk jane atje thjeshte per shkak te shpernguljeve te shqiptareve nga Arberia proper, per nevoja ushtarake te sunduesve te ndryshem mesjetare, sepse po te ishte keshtu, ata do te gjendeshin kryesisht ne zonat urbane, por e verteta eshte se pervecse atje, arvanitasit gjenden jo vetem ne zonat historike te Greqise, por dhe ne zonat me te humbura rurale te saj. Ja si paraqiten ata ne komentet e nje te huaji:

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Turkey, Greece and Malta (1837)


Author: Adolphus Slade


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