"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

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Këtu mund të flisni mbi historinë tonë duke sjellë fakte historike për ndriçimin e asaj pjese të historisë mbi të cilen ka rënë harresa e kohës dhe e njerëzve.
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-Vllehet kane te njejten prejardhje me shqiptaret , shkruan authori Karl Vollgraff
Kete duhet ta lexojne mire ata vllehe, qe sulmojne shqiptaret ne pozitat kur kane perqafuar nje identitet te ri, ate grek.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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By J. Alexander v Goracuchi , 1863
Die Adria und ihre Küsten mit Betrachtungen über Triest als Badeort nebst

Shqiptaret ishin ata ushtaret qe i udheheqte Pirroja , qe shkuan nga Epiri e deri ne Itali .
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EPIRI PLAK ose EPIRI I VJETER:

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Bibliotheca graeca... (1761)

Author: Johann Albert Fabricius
Publisher: C. Liebezeit [T.C . Felginer; etc.]
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Po te kerkojme te perkthejme nga "greqishtja" ate fjalen "palai" ne "latinisht" na del "veter" ...ku ne shqip i kemi te dyja fjalet qe kane te njejtin kuptim.Epiri Plak apo Epiri i Vjeter eshte e njejta gje!

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Diadochus Of Photice .theologian, mystic, and bishop of Photice, Epirus, who was a staunch defender of orthodox Christological doctrine. His treatises on the ascetic life have influenced Eastern Orthodox and Western spirituality.

Little is known of Diadochus’ life. At the Council of Chalcedon (451) and in a letter to the Eastern Roman emperor Leo I in 457, he refuted the heterodox monophysite tenet of a single, divine nature in Christ by maintaining Christ’s dual (human and divine) natures. A late-5th-century chronicle, Historia persecutionis Vandalorum (1535; The Memorable and Tragical History of the Persecution in Africke) by Victor, bishop of Vita, commends Diadochus’ catholic doctrine and indicates that he was abducted by marauding Vandals and taken to Carthage, where he probably died.
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Me disa ndryshime ky pasazh do te tregonte te verteten se themeluesit e qyteterimit mikenian s'ishin tjeter kush vecse iliro-epirotet pellazge:
In the Neolithic period Epirus was populated by seafarers along the coast and by shepherds and hunters from the southwestern Balkans who brought with them the Greek language. These people buried their leaders in large mounds containing shaft graves. Similar burial chambers were subsequently used by the Mycenean civilization, suggesting that the founders of Mycenae may have come from Epirus and central Albania. Epirus itself remained culturally backward during this time, but Mycenean remains have been found at two religious shrines of great antiquity in the region: the Oracle of the Dead on the Acheron River, familiar to the heroes of Homer's Odyssey, and the Oracle of Zeus at Dodona, to whom Achilles prayed in the Iliad.
Me disa pyetje qe do t'i benim, do te dilnin shume te verteta nga ky tekst. Ja nje pershembull:

1. Nese dhomat e varrimit sugjerojne se mikenet duhet te kene ardhur prej Veriut (Epirit dhe Ilirise), atehere del se gjuha 'greke' zanafilloka pikerisht prej ketij Veriu te Famshem, per te cilin gjithnje u perdor me perbuzje termi 'barbar'?!
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Alb me pelqeu kjo , por autori ?
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…The traveller in Attica must not suppose that the peasant whom he meets on the ridge of Parnes descends from ancestors who fought at Marathon; at the utmost he may CLAIM KINDRED with those Epirots whose serried phalanx under Pyrrhus repeatedly broke through the legions of Rome. Boeotia also, and Argolis, and the district around Corinth, together with parts of Elis and Messenia, and a portion of an upper valley, ‘’where Peneus strong, pours his incessant flood along’’, are almost entirely peopled with Albanians, who, like their countrymen in Attica and the islands, exclusively belong to the Tosk race…

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Arbëri wrote:Alb me pelqeu kjo , por autori ?
Ah, me fal qe s'e postova me pare. Eshte i mrekullueshmi Henry Brailsford - etnograf anglez.

Ne ate forumin e shkaterruar (ose shpartalluar 'grek' :mrgreen: ) jam tu i mbledh materialet qe ia vlen mos me humb -itsok-
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The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864-1933), Wednesday 23 October 1878, page 3
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The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954), Monday 27 November 1876, page 6

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Nje deshmi 'ngjethese' tjeter per Epirin shqiptar - Kesaj here vie vete prej shkrimtarit tone humanist Frang Bardhi (1641):
For the last eighty years, the bishops of Zadrima have been using for their cathedral the parish church of Saint George within the walls of the town of Sapa.This town was also destroyed, probably by the Romans during their war with Pyrrhus, king of the Epirotes, i.e. the Albanians.

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History of Rome By Thomas Arnold
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The American nations; or, Outlines of their general history, ancient and modern

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Nathan Bailey - 1731 (The universal etymological English dictionary )

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The languages of lesser extent are,
I. The Albaneze or old Epirotick, now in use in the mountainous parts of Epirus.
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